I am always happy to find alternative applications of creativity. Today’s focus is on Acer or, more specifically, on Acer’s so-called Linux notebooks. Shipped exlusively in Europe (as far as I can tell), they attract interest by being cheaper than the version shipped with some version of Windows. Currently, the difference in price weighs in at 47.01 € at Amazon Germany (that’s, very roughly, 10% of the full price).

And, of course, they come with Linux pre-installed. So that’s fine for basic usage, even if it takes a little getting used to for the more Windows- savvy people. Right?

Let’s take a closer look. Acer’s Linux distribution of choice appears to be Linpus Linux (a Fedora fork developed by Linpus Technologies of Taiwan). Their website is down right now (I wonder…), but from what I gather from the rest of the web, Linpus comes in several flavors, among them a desktop edition and a server edition. The desktop edition is based on KDE 3.4 et cetera et cetera, so nothing really surprising there. Even if Linpus is rather unusual, it’s probably decent enough. Right? Right? Well… Guess again.

So what’s the big deal?

Turns out Acer thought it would be just spiffy to install the basic edition of Linpus. I would provide you with a screenshot but… did I mention that their website is down? So, as several unhappy customers explain with varying levels of frustration, all you get with Acer’s idea of Linux is a root prompt, i.e. a black and white text screen on which you can enter. That’s right, there is no graphical user interface at all.

This is a clever move by Acer. I’m sure it’s easy to ship their laptops with something like that, and it gets those pesky legal restrictions out of the way which tell vendors they have to include an operating system in the package.

As a consequence, users who may have heard that Linux is pretty alright to work with and thus give Acer’s Linux notebooks a try are pretty much stumped. Some installations even ask the user to log in even though they never created any accounts. Suffice to say that the login data is not supplied in the manuals shipped with the notebook. It’s hidden somewhere on the Acer support website, and you can find it on the Linpus website (which, as I may have written already, is unreachable right now). For reference, the user name is root (which is the user that has total control over the system and can royally mess things up) and the password is something like “111111″. we should have known that, shouldn’t we?

What does Acer say?

Acer, if asked about this in support queries, appears to be pretty blunt in its answers, basically telling customers that they only ship with Linux so they meet the legal requirements, and they really don’t care how usable that Linux is. This would be perfectly reasonable if Acer actually included some note to that degree in its product descriptions. Advertising these notebooks as shipping with Linux (or even Linpus Linux, of which there exist versions with graphical interface as well) seems like a misrepresentation of the package contents to me.

On the positive side…

Let’s keep in mind, though, that if you actually know your way around computers, you can easily install something different on those laptops, like your old copy of Windows or a more sensible Linux distribution such as Ubuntu. In that case, buying one of Acer’s Linux notebooks might be for you.

I’m secretly of the opinion that notebooks are throw-away hardware; no notebook any of my friends or myself have bought in the last several years has lasted longer than two years; in most cases, first defects (such as the display going on LSD and becoming totally psychedelic) appear as early as one year after purchase. That’s simply not acceptable for the more expensive notebooks out there (in 2001, I bought a notebook for 2500.- €, only to have its CPU fan’s screw sockets detach from the mainboard after about a year (random CPU overheating, anyone?) and the touchpad and battery dying in half-year intervals after that).

In short, I think it might be sensible to go for the cheapest thing that could possibly work (within a set of standards of your choice). In this sense, Acer’s Linux notebooks might be a reasonable choice, provided you are going to setup your own operating system. On the other hand, you might want to wait for the Asus Eee notebooks.

Conclusion

Good on you, Acer! Easy way of increasing your target market without any hassle. Let’s hope that any frustrated customers blame their problems on Linux instead of you, so you can keep cutting costs this way. Or let’s just hope that the legal restrictions get dropped so you can drop the act and there are no disappointments anymore.

11 Responses to “Acer’s “Linux” notebooks… boot. What, you need more?”

  1. bernstein on

    well, well… i’ve been running my Laptop for three years… and yes the LCD died after two months and my hdd died after 2.5 years too. but as i paid for a three year onsite warranty (about 10% of the price of a decent notebook) it was replaced/repaired immediately. so it is just a matter of purchasing the right thing.
    btw: all vendors offer 3years onsite, but there are only a few to include it in the standard offer….

  2. bernstein on

    ah… and the linux thing.
    one more reason to continue telling everyone i know : NEVER EVER BUY FROM ACER (especially notebooks)
    they may be cheap but still they cost way to much for that quality….

  3. Bradley on

    At risk of sounding like a fan boy… I directed an entire school district to Acer desktops and laptops. We have used Dells, Gateways, HP/Compaq, etc… all have lasted similar to what is listed above. On the other hand our Acers have lasted 5= years (remember this is a school setting and lots of abuse). We have a few select Lenovo Thinkpads, but other than an hdd dying, problems are few.

  4. Jan on

    Bradley: if it works, that’s great for you. :) I don’t really have any experience with Acer hardware and I certainly won’t condemn it on principles. The only thing I”m criticizing is that their Linux bundle is pretty much unusable for less experienced computer users.
    Personally, I think I’ll go for middle ground in the future, both in terms of price and reputation.

  5. linuxadore on

    I am happy user of Ubuntu powered Acer Aspire 5310.
    Some Linux Live CD will help you to detect hardware and test Linux OS, after that you can install it on hard and it will remove unusable Linpus Linux without GUI. Some adjustments are needed for sound /upgrade to Alsa 1.0.15 with backports/ and conexant modem or atheros wifi to work /with cable no probs - BCM Netlink work out-of-the-box/.
    More info on my Opera blog. /Google - best friend/.

  6. Jan on

    The question stands, though: how will the average computer user get to that point? Not at all, I say. The bundle is not exactly marketed as “for advanced users only”, even though it clearly is.

  7. linuxadore on

    I swear it is easy /especially with Ubuntu or Knoppix/, and I am a v e r a g e user… All answers are on the web, just googling a little …

  8. Jan on

    Absolutely. That’s why I recommended Ubuntu in the post. The article addresses the rather odd choice of distribution that Acer included rather than Linux in general.

  9. Quantum Leap Technologies on

    I am really seeing a nice turn around in perception of Acer. I have had a lot of customers asking for them the past 6 months.

    I remember Acer back in the late 80’s when I was doing field service. They were actually one of the first IBM compatible computers on the market. Then I believe they filed for Bankruptcy.

    Anyway, they seem to be putting out a nice product line.

    Regards,

    Keith

  10. Lenovo is next on

    I wish I could order a thinkpad or an ideaPad with the linux.. I would wipe it off and just load a xpLite or somthing of that nature.

  11. Kadenge on

    linuxadore kindly tell me the version of ubuntu you are using failed in installing ver 5.10 today

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